Wednesday, November 14, 2012



RQ: What does it mean to be in a midlife marriage?

This week’s blog:  Communication & Dialogue

     Ok, I changed my research question. Did you notice?  Originally I asked, “What are the issues in midlife marriage?”  However, I believe my new research question better reflects potential changes that take place in the relationship because of external influences.
     I read two fascinating articles this week on communication. The first article discussed premodern, modern and postmodern communication theories. The author, Seymour, (2011) suggests that there is value and a “unique space” (p. 289) for examining the contributions of the premodern communication theory in today’s world. He is not attempting to disregard the modern and postmodern communication models, but he gives examples how these theoretical models do not hold the all-inclusive answer to communication theory.
     Seymour gives examples from six modern and postmodern models of communication and discusses their limitations. I will give one example from a postmodern communication model.  It is the Gender, Feminism, and Intimacy model. I thought this model was very interesting and applicable to intimate marriage relationships.  This model is based on the assumption of male dominance in Western culture.  In this feminist model is the “pure relationship”, named so by sociologist Anthony Giddens (1992). This “pure relationship” exists only “within itself” with no societal, cultural or family connections. Giddens suggests that from “pure relationship” emerges sexuality he terms “plastic sexuality” (p. 303). This sexuality is “de-centered, de-naturalized, de-socialized, and bound in individual subjectivity” (p. 303). This type of relationship and sexuality is “accessible to the development of varying life-styles…a malleable feature of the self” (p. 303). Seymour reports that other scholars, like Hall and Zhao (1995), have agreed with Giddens and added that “pure relationships” and “plastic sexuality” produces “expectations and conditions of intimacy…that perpetuate fractured and isolated interpersonal relationships and practices” (p. 303). Studies show that “individuals who adopt an overly inclusive and accepting ethic in terms of relational identity and practices are more likely to find themselves isolated in their preferences and unable to be relationally responsive” (p. 303).
    We are in a postmodern society which is preoccupied with individualism and everything is subjective to the individual. Seymour wants us to consider some of the elements of the premodern model of communication that may be useful to understand and consider in today’s postmodern environment. The main difference between postmodern, modern and premodern is that the premodern model had allowance for faith, or connection to God, or “some notion of ultimate reality” in the public spaces. (p. 304).     The premodern model of interpersonal communication allows for the existence of a created and coherent order. This gives a foundation to the relationship and makes the relationship and the persons in the relationship significant. The premodern presumes an intimate relationship of three, the triadic model, self, other and God.  Seymour points out that there are medieval philosophical models that work with these same assumptions i.e.”Credo ut intelligam” (“I believe in order to understand”) (p. 305). The premodern model gives recognition to the “potential to be filled” in your true self. It views communication as a “moment of extension” (p. 305); not of negotiation, control or identification as modern and postmodern models view communication.    
     Seymour concludes that individuals have this space within them for potential. This space can be filled with the divine, or a space of separation. Seymour also recognizes that some people are unnerved by the thought of a divine order. He quotes Taylor, (2007) that there is a third condition. It is a stable, ordered, and good position that allows us not to be drawn toward the divine or separated, but is a process that draws us toward a place of fullness over the years. (p. 306).
     Modern and postmodern communication theories leave out the possibility of the existence of God or an ultimate truth in the public sphere. Since the “notion of an ultimate reality” is not existent in public, it has been also limited in interpersonal communication.
   Another article I read this week was by L. Baxter (2010). This article discussed creative communication and the meaning of marriage. There is conflict in many marriages today because married individuals view the meaning of marriage differentlyScholars have identified two conflicting views of marriage in the United States. One view of marriage is that it is a moral-social institution with obligations to hold traditional values and lifelong commitment. The other view is a utilitarian-expressive individualism concept of marriage. This type of marriage is seen as only obligated to the two married individuals for “self-development and self-gratification” (p. 373). If the marriage no longer provides this, it can be ended.  I see premodern theories of the meaning of marriage in conflict with the postmodern culture of individualism.
     This article opened my eyes to a new perspective on communication, and the meaning of marital quality. A common way to look at marital quality is how stable, satisfactory, adjusted and committed the couple is. This article discussed that marital quality really has to do with being able to be creative in communication. The meaning of marital quality can vary among couples, between couples and even change over time and circumstances. Using a creative approach in communication takes the pressure off the individuals in conflict and puts it on managing and embracing conversation and understanding. Dialogue is the goal, along with a focus on meanings.
     Both of these articles have given me new insight into the importance of communication and how it can bring us closer together.  As married couples, it is easiest to take the shortcuts and not seek the common ground. These articles have pointed out that struggles in conversation and understanding are not problems, but a process to be nurtured, an opportunity for creative communication, listening, and the give and take of ideas.

References:
Baxter, L. A. (2010). The dialogue of marriage. Journal of Family Theory & Review, 2, (Dec 2010), 370-387. doi: 10.1111/j.1756-2589.2010.00067.x
Seymour, C. G. (2011). A place for the premodern: A review of modern and postmodern intimate interpersonal communication frames. The Review of Communication. 11(4). 286-309.

8 comments:

  1. Hey Great post Nancy! Very Very interesting.

    I cannot say much about the religion part but I find that having a ‘greater goal’ in a marriage or friendship or any interpersonal relationship seems to make that relationship better and stronger.

    moral-social institution marriages and their partners may devote their marriage to a ‘greater goal’ be it serving God, doing business, saving the environment e.t.c it seems to make the newlyweds partners in a mission to do something which takes a lot of the pressure and focus off the ‘marriage’ itself.

    In utilitarian-expressive individualism type marriages where there is no mission or bigger goal, it seems like the whole point of the marriage is to try to make the marriage ‘work’ or last as long as possible. When this becomes the goal it becomes much like aiming to get a B in a class- you most likely will get a C+ or a B-(if you’re lucky). When you aim high say for an A+ you may get an A- or a B+. In either case, you got higher than the B.

    This is what a goal in a marriage, friendship or relationship does I think. It sets a higher mission in your relationship than just “being happily married” It seems to give people that A+ to strive for . Even if you fail at that thing, be it religion, or charity, or the arts atleast you will still get your ‘B’ – your marriage, friendship or relationship.

    Thanks Nancy for that post!

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  2. Hi Mwamba, I found these two articles very interesting especially after last week’s in-class discussion. I was not familiar with Leslie Baxter, but I enjoyed the new perspective and understanding she gave me on communication and society.

    You seemed to have a good understanding of the moral-social vs utilitarian-expressive individualism marriage types. Maybe you are a communication major? I appreciate how you point out that having a greater goal in marriage makes the relationship stronger. I think if a couple has a vision or focus on something “out there” it keeps the relationship more stable and grounded. With a greater goal, it requires more responsibility, determination and creativity to navigate communication differences. Also, the relationship is not just a private affair, but becomes a public function in society as others become reliant on the outcome of your goals.

    This greater goal brings potential to the relationship. It brings something that is greater than both individuals separately and combined. It brings in a third object, whether it is God, a business, or the environment, like you said. This creates synergy; a whole new object to focus on and strive for.

    Happy Thanksgiving Mwamba. Enjoy the week’s vacation!

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  4. Nancy,
    Very interesting. You mention that faith is a part of the our relationships and then you talk about being filled. I think I understand that these are two different things. Which is going on in the midlife? Are the things you talked about relating to all relationships or just the one you are interested in? The other thing I was think about - are they mutually exclusive? Can I have faith and also be filled? Do you think our current social evironment (all about being individual) is without faith? Do you think that faith - tha is mutally shared between those in the midlife marriage helps or hinders?
    I love dialogue! How would you describe it? Is it different than discourse? What about it is special? To me, dialogue is something more than just words, it is something that includes a type of emotional connection. I am listening to someone speak to me, but I am also engaging and hearing with my heart and mind. What do you think?
    Teresa

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    1. Thanks Teresa—I really put you in a spot, but I really appreciate you quickly giving me a comment. You gave great comments by the way. I take the “potential to be filled” to refer to the possibilities within us to give to others, to create something, to help, to feel fulfilled in life, to have purpose—we need to find whatever it is that gives us passion in life. This could be our family, work, gardening, and/or social outlets. Part of this potential involves other people around us with whom we are in relationship. Maybe we are working on a project together, i.e. a community garden or raising a family, caring for elderly in-laws or our own parents.

      These articles did not specifically refer to midlife marriages, but to marriages and relationships in general. I just wanted to study a little on communication, since I am not a communication major (or minor), so I could reference it in my final paper. Communication is in all relationships. Communication, dialogue, discourse—all involves speaking, listening, hearing, attention, eye contact, non-verbal, verbal, heart strings, emotions and a willingness to be engaged.

      I do not think that having faith in God or a higher power is in conflict or mutually exclusive to developing your potential. However, in contrast to this is the individualistic view that puts “self” at center focus. You are not looking outward, but inward. It seems to me that much of our social environment is without faith in anything outside of self.

      Thanks so much Teresa for your interesting conversation with me. Love conversing

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  6. Hi Nancy, Allow me to make a suggestion on your research question. I think that "what does it mean to be in midlife marriage" is too broad/vague. Given your introduction, it seems like what you mean more specifically is: "What external influences affect midlife marriages?"
    Now, to your articles. I'd like to see a little more connection between the Seymour article and your research question. Seemed like a little bit of a stretch, but maybe I'm missing something. I'm a Baxter fan, so I'm glad you ran across her article. It seems a little more connected, but again would be great for you to really make that case. I want to make sure you have a strong set of articles that answer your question going into the final papers- woot!

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    1. Thank you Dr. Reeder for your advice. I was wondering about the RQ myself. I noticed my sentence in the first paragraph and it sounded like a good question itself. The Seymour article was probably a stretch in regard to marriage, but the article was soooo interesting. However, I did think the two articles related because they both deal with goals outside of ourselves. As married couples goes through midlife together, goals often change, potential in life changes as finances or health changes, etc. This requires creative dialogue and adjustments in the midlife relationship.

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